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KING: You're on a thing now with this Safra case, right? 


KING: He died of asphyxiation in a fire, right?

DUNNE: In a penthouse in Monte Carlo. This is an amazing story. I mean,
there's -- I have no solution to this. I don't know. I don't know what...

KING: He as murdered?

DUNNE: He was -- well, he -- died by asphyxiation. He couldn't get out. He
didn't wish to come out of that bathroom. It's a really fascinating story. He
was one of the richest men in the world. He had become a citizen of Monaco
the day before this happened. He was a man who had 12 guards trained by the
Mossad with him at all time, and not one of them was on duty that night.

He had this -- he had a lot of nurses, and he had this one nurse on duty who
lit the fire this night -- very confusing thing. A toilet paper fire that was
lit by a scented candle, and he held it up to the fire alarm system, because
he said that there were two intruders there, and he wanted to attract
attention. That guy is called Ted Maher, from Stormville, New York, an
American, is in jail now in Monaco, and he's been there for 18, 19 months. No
date for a trial has been set. I happen not to believe that he is the sole
person response for this. There's just too many strange things.

KING: You think he's involved, but not solely involved.

DUNNE: He certainly admits to having lit the fire. And -- but the story that
he -- you've got to remember that they got the confession out of him. He was
wounded. Whether he wounded himself or was wounded is a moot point. And he
signed the confession in a language he didn't speak. They had his wife's
passport and said they wouldn't let her out of Monaco to get back to the
kids. It was a very strange thing.

KING: What has to fascinate you in order to cover trial, write about it?
What's the trigger lock? DUNNE: Well, I know this sounds so snobby to say,
but I never write about street crime. I mean, I write about crime among the
powerful, because it's different for them.

KING: The rich are different than you I.

DUNNE: You bet.

CALLER: First, I would like to say how much I enjoy his articles in "Vanity

DUNNE: Thank you.

CALLER: My question is, have you ever been sued? And what was the outcome?

KING: Good question.

DUNNE: A good one but I haven't been.

KING: Really?

DUNNE: And I walk a very thin line, here, a lot of times, and the stuff that
I write. And, I haven't been sued.

KING: Why do you think you, some people walk around, with a black cloud over
their head, some people walk around with lucky and some people -- why do you
think you run into all the right people, at all the right times? Why does it
come to you?

DUNNE: Well, you know, it isn't that I'm this great investigative reporter,
things happen to me, people come to me, and I mean in the Safra case, it
isn't like I'm over sniffing around, doing something -- people want to see
me. And...

KING: You are not as an investigative reporter as we would expect you, right?
You are a -- you are a -- a writer.

DUNNE: I'm a writer that who goes around, who moves around in the thing, and
if I get my nose into a case, like the Menendez brothers, like the thing,
people come and tell me that.

KING: Are you cynical by nature?


KING: Which is surprising, normally you would think you would be. You are not


KING: To Wichita.


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